Interview with X1 & X2 about guns and where to keep them.

[It is illegal to own a gun in the city of Chicago...]
X2: My other concern is that I'm nervous about being on record that we own a gun.
M: I could use alias's.
X1: What are you nervous about, I mean we're already on record as owning a gun?
X2: No, there's no record.
X1: When you get this ID it doesn't go on record somewhere?
X2: The state has a record of you having an ID but that doesn't mean you have a gun. You have to have an ID to shoot on a range in Illinois but you can go there and rent one.
M: So they don't check when you come there with a gun if you've registered it?
X2: The gun shop doesn't care if you live in Chicago or not. It's like a don't ask don't tell. So it's like the state doesn't care. It's the kind of retarded thing about it. Is that the city and the state are two separate entities about it. Just having that ID doesn't mean you own a gun. It means you can shoot a gun.

 


X1

X2

X1: I don't even know if I remember the story. Well J- got a new gun so then X and I decided to buy his old gun and I decided yeah it would be fun to have a gun...
X2: We bought a smith and Wesson 9mm.
X1: I don't even know what it is - it's kind of ugly.
X2: I like it personally.
X1: It's little bit too big, it would look better if it was smaller.
M: When was that?
X1: It was while I was in L.A.
X2: Then I mailed it to you and we took it to Wendover.
X1: Right cuz we needed to practice. So I got a gun in the mail. But there were no bullets.
X2: I didn't want to bring it with me on the airplane. I didn't want to deal with it. Technically it's fine if you tell them you have a gun that you are checking a gun in your bag - obviously you can't carry it on - the rule is that if you tell them that you have a gun that you're checking with your baggage and it's not loaded they're fine with that but I didn't want to deal - well there's a couple things, one I didn't want to deal with any questions even though they said it was fine on the phone I knew it would be a real rigmarole at the airport.
M: Do you have a gun license?
X2: Well that's the other thing - it's not legal to own a gun in the city of Chicago.
X2: You have to have a Firearm Owner's ID to shoot at any shooting range...
X1: Maybe we should scan those...
X2: Sure...

X1: So didn't our discussion happen before you sent the gun out?
X2: No, it was after you moved back that we had the discussion about how it would be dealt with in the home. It was while you were staying with me and you realized I kept it loaded next to my bed...
X1: But I thought that was one of the times when I came back to visit that we started having that discussion.
X2: It might have been I don't know.
M: See I thought it happened when you were in LA...
(laughter)
X2: Well I got it before she moved back so...
M: Yeah cuz I kind of remember that we talked about it on the phone while you (X1) still were in LA...
X1: Yeah...cuz I was like it's totally fucked up...
X2: I fucked up? How did I fuck up...
X1: No it was fucked up that you wanted to have it loaded in the house...
X2: Why do you think that's fucked up?
X1: Cuz I think it's just an invitation for calamity...
X2: Well I don't keep it loaded in the house when I'm not there.
X1: So every time you come home you reload it?
X2: Well you just keep the clip loaded and you take the clip out and you lock the gun up when you're not there...
X1: What do you mean when you're not there? Every time you come home you put the clip back in the gun?
X2: Yeah the only time I had it loaded was when I was at home sleeping.
M: So one thing you do before you go to bed is load your gun.
X2: I did but not any more.
X1: See that is so WEIRD....
M: So tell me about how you found out that he was doing that...
X2: It was in the same drawer with the condoms.
X1: Yeah but I don't think that I saw it...I think it was just like something that we discussed.
X1: So on one of the visits when I came back we had the confrontation...
X2: Wait I think the first time we talked about it was in Wendover...cuz in Wendover I was like...
X1: I remember having this discussion in your bedroom...
X1: I think it came up again in Wendover cuz you didn't realize how freaked out about it I was.
X2: That's probably true.
X1: I think you were just like oh she's kind of freaked out but still sort of kept the gun there but in Wendover was when you realized I totally don't want to sleep over at your house if it's going to be loaded while I'm sleeping there.
X2: That is correct.

M: So how did you find out it was there?
X1: It wasn't seeing it...talking I guess...
X2: It might have come up cuz I was keeping my room locked....
X1: I don't remember the order...I just remember I was freaked out. It's like the idea of that potential for violence right there in the room freaked me out. It was just unappealing in every way. Totally not sexy.
M: Otherwise you think guns are sexy?
X1: I think yes, skill with a gun is sexy. I like the idea of owning it and being skilled with it and being able to control that kind of power. But it seems unsexy to me ... something about having it in the room and loaded I think more about the potential for accidents than any kind of skill in using it. I'm more interested in keeping it unloaded until we go someplace and we're going to go and practice or something.
M: So for you a gun is totally not about protection of your self and home...
X1: No I don't.
X2: But I do.
M: So you grew up with guns around?
X2: Yeah...and for me personally it's definitely something I associate with owning it is self-defense. It's why I want to be good with it... I'm equally fascinated with the same kind of thing she is as far as the skill and marksmanship and the wielding of that power but I definitely equally associate it with self-defense which is why I want to use it well so that there are no accidents. I mean I grew up with guns in the house and there were never an accident... It's not like I don't understand the potential for fucked up shit...that happens all the time. I definitely think this country could use more regulated gun laws, it's ridiculous that the government knows more about your car than if you own a gun. I don't seen any reason why it's not like registering a car...
M: So now that you live in the same house....
X2: It's locked up.